Posted by: riggword | January 31, 2009

Obama, how ’bout stimulating the Military?

The Obama administration has asked the military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff to cut the Pentagon’s budget request for the fiscal year 2010 by more than 10 percent — about $55 billion — a senior U.S. defense official tells FOX News.

So, let me get this straight

The Obama “stimulus” will a take trillion dollars and redirect it to groups like ACORN and the National Endowment for the Arts, while at the same time redirecting money away from our military. Why not give a trillion dollars to the military and let that money be used to stimulate defense contractors and the military families themselves. That money would be spread many times over throughout our economy.

For now it is Pork over Power!

From Pirate’s Cove:

Certainly, Obamabi has targeted Star Wars and other missile defense programs during his campaign, but, Director Blue has a breakdown of comparing the $55 billion cut to protecting the United States, which, if memory serves, is actually in the Constitution and the Presidential Oath of Office, to the what is in the Porkulus Package Obama is pushing.

Here’s just a smidgeon of what Obama wants to stimulate,

From Director Blue:

• $83 billion in welfare payments
• $81 billion for Medicaid
• $66 billion on “education”, more than the entire Department of Education required just ten years ago
• $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits
• $20 billion for food stamps
• $8 billion on “renewable energy” projects, which have a low or negative return
• $7 billion for “modernizing federal buildings and facilities”
• $6 billion on urban transit systems, dominated by unions and which, almost universally, lose money
• $2.4 billion for “carbon-capture demonstration projects”
• $2 billion for child-care subsidies
• $1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that’s run in the red for 40 years
• $650 million for “digital TV conversion coupons” (on top of billions already spent)
• $600 million on new cars for government (added to the $3 billion already spent each year)
• $400 million for “global-warming research”
• $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts

Hugh Hewitt has a similar thought:

Another proposal that Senate Republicans should be pushing is for an increase in the number of ships under construction as the Navy has plans to decrease to around 280 ships, which is inconsistent with the number of missions the Navy has been asked to undertake. Ship cosntruction is a serious job provider that also leaves the country better defended –the sort of stimulus that makes sense

How about a raise for the military families President Obama?

Meanwhile a more pressing issue has arisen in the White House!

From Michelle Malkin:

Super Bowl bet: What will the thermostat temp be at the White House party?

By Michelle Malkin • January 31, 2009 09:46 PM


Super Bowl bet: What will the thermostat temp be at the White House party?

75 degrees? 76? 77? And will there be nachos and beer…or more wagyu steak and cocktails? How about some Snuggies?

Inquiring minds want to know: (more from Malkin)

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From Hot Air:

A 10% cut at the Pentagon?

posted at 9:42 am on January 31, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

While the Obama administration tries pushing through its trillion-dollar porkfest of Mall resodding and Medicare expansion, the Pentagon has gotten a much different mission from the White House. President Obama has demanded a 10% reduction in the defense budget for FY2010, even while we fight a war in Afghanistan and conduct counterterrorist operations around the world:

Obama to the Rescue

From Michelle Malkin:

Obama-bot Force…activated!

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 2, 2009 01:49 PM

Photoshop: Red County

Just got my marching orders from President Obama, via the merged DNC/Obama campaign mega-e-mail list. Obama-bot Force…activated. Form of…the Crap Sandwich Brigade!


Responses

  1. We won’t need as much money for military spending because we aren’t going to be the world bully anymore.

  2. Thanks for stopping the Hate, stophate,

    I hope you will help the Islamo-fascists stop their hate as well!

  3. Are they any different from conservative fascists that start preemptive wars and kill thousands of our troops looking for WMD’s that don’t exist ?

  4. Thank you stophate and whoisme,

    I guess this debate will go on until there is no America to debate.

    It is about how one views life,
    Either there is good and evil or
    everything is relative; there are no absolutes.

    stophate how you perceive which side is right or wrong may not change. You are entitled to equate American interests with Islamo-Terrorists actions. I am comfortable with not trying to change your mind to seeing America as mostly supporting good causes.

    I am guessing that you are an Obama supporter.
    So, I have two questions for you,

    How do you feel about Obama authorizing bombings in Afghanistan that killed so many innocent non-combatant Afghan citizens?

    and

    If our war effort is so evil, then why are we not retreating immediately?

    See my post,
    “Obama’s War! Afghan president: US forces killed 16 civilians”.

    Thanks again,
    and God Bless,
    riggword

  5. How do you feel about supporting a President that starts preemptive wars that kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and call yourself a Christian ? We can move on to the torture on human beings if you wish.

  6. Obviously stophate,

    You didn’t want to answer my question.

    I knew The typical “You call yourself a Christian” Hate line was bound to show up.

    One liners, name calling, and Christian bashing have been the left’s main form of debate for years now. Real discussion about facts instead of Michael Moore Hate rhetoric are not the Left’s strong suit.

    If you would like to go back and read my posts over the past year, you will get in depth answers to your attacks.

    Like I said I don’t expect you to change your attitude about these issues. I just want to know what you think about President Obama’s War and his killing of innocents.

    Obviously, stophate you don’t want to answer this question.

    I thank you for your comments as they do help us all see the true haters in our country.

    God Bless,
    riggword

  7. I answered the question. We do not need to increase military spending because we are not going to murder innocent people under the new president. And If you call that hate, then you don’t really understand what the military is used for and how they were misused during the Bush years. Between 2006 and 2008 military spending went from 600 billion to 700 billion. We spend more on our military than any other country in the world and 8 times more than China. So stop singing the blues.

  8. stop hate,

    I guess I am not clear on how you feel about President Obama killing innocent children.

    Are you supporting his continued use of force in the Middle East to further American interests in that part of the world? Or do you demand immediate withdrawal of all American Troops?

    Just to be clear I have reread all of your comments and I don’t see an answer.

    Could you re-explain your support or non-support for Obama’s continued use of deadly force on innocent civilians?

    Thanks,
    riggword.

  9. “We do not need to increase military spending because we are not going to murder innocent people under the new president. ”

    But it has already happened or do you not read the news.

    Here’s another question you won’t answer. Since you leftists loathe the military and think if we just sit down and hold hands with the Islamofasicts and Communist tyrants of the world, the world will be at peace, then why don’t we just unilaterally disarm in the interest of world peace?

    Think of it, if we just did away with the military, we could no longer “abuse our power” as you so naively put it. All that savings could be plowed right back into building a Socialist Health Care system, taking care of the world’s rejects and everything leftists love so dearly.

    So since this is your ultimate vision, why not push Obama to disband the military and destroy all of our weapons in the name of world peace?

  10. stophate, you don’t read much do you? Check out U.N. resolution 687 from 1991. Then check out U.N. resolution 1441 from 2002.

    Some quotes for you:

    “Saddam Hussein] has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members…” (Hillary Clinton senate floor speech, 2002)

    “Under Saddam’s rule, Iraq has engaged in far-reaching human rights abuses, been a state sponsor of terrorism, and has long sought to obtain and develop weapons of mass destruction.” (Harry Reid senate floor speech, 2002) This one has been scrubbed from Reid’s Senate web page.

    Bush was preemptive? The U.N. believed Saddam had WMDs. Your liberal buddies in Washington believed Saddam had WMDs. Bush was doing the job Bill-the-sex-addict wouldn’t do.

    You don’t know what preemptive means. The U.S. bombing China before it can bankrupt us is preemptive.

    Liberal fascists are no different than welfare recipients.

  11. I guess you are just going to hope the whole WMD reasoning behind the Iraq invasion that was blatantly false is just going to disappear. Perhaps when George Bush and Dick Cheney are brought in for a war crimes trial you will get the picture.

  12. stophate,

    I understand that you believe that President Obama will not kill innocent people in the future, but that does not answer how you can justify President Obama being part of killing 18 innocent people in Afghanistan already.

    If, as you say the war is wrong and we are wrong for being there, then how can you justify President Obama’s continued use of force for an unjust cause? Why not remove our troops today? What is our new “Change” President waiting for. Get the troops out NOW! Obama you murderer!. Bring our children home! No more war, no more war! Give peace a chance!

    Oh sorry, I had a momentary relapse of liberalism.

    Just thought I would give you one last chance to explain yourself and the Obama policy.

    riggword

  13. peak9,

    Thanks for bringing back the facts to this thread. I am just so tried of trying to be logical with the lefties. They proved a long time ago that their only source for facts is Michael Moore.

    It all reminds me of Proverbs 27:22,

    “Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding him like grain with a pestle, you will not remove his folly from him.”

    The left has their folly and now their King of follies.

    I say let them have their folly and let them eat cake too!

    God Bless,
    riggword

  14. Stophate – So you think the President was lying when he said the following on the eve of the attack on Iraq?:

    “The president said Iraq’s refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.

    “Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

    “Earlier today I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces,” the President said.

    “Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors,” said the President.”

    So from the comments above from his televised speech to the nation, should the President have to face war crimes charges?

  15. Bill Clinton, as president, said Saddam had WMDs. The green messiah, Al Gore, said Saddam had WMDs. George Bush was not alone on WMDs.

  16. Stophate – It’s true what peak9 says you know. Why do you and your comrades think that US History is something that needs to be rewritten prior to GW coming into office?

    Incidentally, the above quotes from the President’s speech that I listed. Well, as much as you would like to think they came out of GW’s mouth, nope.

    Bill Clinton.

    Of course you will say its not true and not be bothered to research the truth because libs like you find facts to be “inconvenient”. So here is the link to the CNN website where BJ’s speech to the nation is listed.

    http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/index.html

    So I guess we need to bring him up on war crimes charges too? Gore? Hans Blix from the UN? Might as well as bring the countries of NATO up on war crimes charges too since they all thought Saddam had WMD too. Since this was all going on in the 90’s, that means they too posted lies and false information, right?

    Did you protest their “lies” back in the 90’s? No? Just as I thought. Typical liberal hypocrite.

  17. Yes, Bush, Cheney and the actually military personel involved should be charged with war crimes for violating the Geneva Conventions on prisoner treatment and torture.

  18. Did the terrorists who sawed off Nick Berg’s head follow the Geneva Convention? Berg was a prisoner of war just like the Gitmo detainees. Did U.S. military personnel saw any heads off? No.

    Do you realize that Muslims in the Sudan are cutting off women’s breasts? Is that torture or is it only torture if done at Gitmo?

    You are clueless, stophate.

  19. Perhaps if you ever actually did anything that involved serving our country you would know that we have a higher moral standard. We are not supposed to be that same as terrorists. We are supposed to be an example of freedom and justice to rest of the world. Torture and war crimes have destroyed how America is viewed by the rest of the world and our moral authority when it comes to dealing with tyrants because now we are the tyrants. Buy a clue.

  20. In typical liberal fashion, he completely ignores the facts and goes off on nonsense. People like stophate would rather see NYC have millions of people poisoned and die off from a dirty bomb than waterboarding a terrorist who has the info on how to stop such a bomb.

    God forbid countries like Iran, Syria, China, Russia, Venezuela think badly of us for such a thing. Oh, Europe would be upset with us? Big deal.

    By the way, once again Stophate, can you at least answer the question I posed earlier about complete and total unilateral disarmament . Should we do it in the interest of world peace?

    I won’t hold my breath waiting for your answer, considering you won’t answer it.

  21. I do not care what the rest of the world thinks. That is your problem, stophate. Does Iran care what we think? No. Does Syria care? No. Does Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela, etc.? No. America will die because it is too busy caring about its image—a nation full of narcissists conducting opinion polls as the mushroom cloud looms overhead.

  22. peak9 and RightWinger,

    It looks like stophate has had enough; he has run out of lefty cliches.

    But what I think is informative is that he is representative of the average American Obama voter. They do not want to deal with the facts of this world.

    This is a world governed by the use of force. To gain and keep power force needs to be used. If the good guys, America, give up, the bad guys win.

    If the majority of Americans want to continuously retreat then that just may be our destiny. It will be unfortunate to leave America defeated to our grandchildren.

    I pray that the strong will stand up and be true to our culture and our American heritage. We need to continue to press on to give the world the hope that we have supplied for over 200 years.

    A weak American only means that dictators and Fascists will rule the world and the innocent will be harmed and the masses downtrodden.

    God Bless America,
    riggword.

  23. Obama is a one term president—a Jimmy Carter clone. Sarah Palin in 2012 for a stronger America.

  24. Rigg, A world ruled by force ? Maybe during the Bush years. Thats why the conservative movement is down the toilet. Bush proved that didn’t work and the people voted for change. I hope the conservatives continue to use this mindset though. It will make the 2010 mid term elctions like shooting fish in a barrel.

  25. ROFLMAO! Please stop it stophate, your killing me. Come on, now I really think you’re just joking and putting us on. Nobody could be that far gone on the kool-aid.

  26. Welcome back stophate,

    Thank you for clearly defining the typical Obama voter.

    Now when do we finally get out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan…etc.

    What’s taking Obama so long?
    We’re killing innocent children everyday for what?

    So, fat rich Americans can drive their big ol’ SUVs.

    Get out now! Get out now! Get out now!

    Hm…seems I don’t hear any more anti-war chants.

    I guess war is ok when it is Obama’s war.

    Oh well, just another day in American Imperialism.

    Thanks again,
    riggword


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