Posted by: riggword | August 25, 2008

Obama Supported by Hillary?

Watching Hillary Unfold Has Been Interesting Yet Puzzling:

I have been following some Hillary supporter blogs and I can’t for the life of me understand why they still believe she is the answer to the Obama debacle. It seems like many of her long time supporters are waiting for her to jump up off of her “Rope a Dope“, and come back to face Obama with a flurry of “Sting Like a Bees“. Hillary like Obama has her own cult of personality following. She seems to be stuck in the minds of her supporters like a female Messiah.

And now with the new revelation that she will release her delegates, what will her supporters do. Will they still think she has a diabolical plan to take  back her throne? Will they follow her lead and support Obama? Or will they stick to their guns and continue to turn away from the fraud Obama.

Democrats need Imagery and Personality to have faith in:

Back when I was a left wing nutcase, I needed the imagery of a higher calling to keep me satisfied with the political system in the United States. We were all such idealistic visionaries that we couldn’t actually focus on the realty of the world. All of my thinking went to a Utopian visionary dreamland. To be fair there are some extreme right wingers who have a skewed view of the world and their own version of isolationist utopia. But they do not own the Republican party, for the most part on the Republican side we see the world realistically. We know there are bad guys out there who want to destroy America. We know that we need to work hard for a living and without American Freedom our country will fall down and the world will be worse off. We tend to look at a candidates qualifications, policies, and character rather than his/her vibrancy, Charisma, or personality star appeal. Obama and Hillary both supply much to attract those who need a “Celebrity” “Star” “Saviour” and someone to promise a Utopian outcome.

I can understand the rational Hillary types who will not Vote for Obama:

Many of Hillary’s supporters have at least vowed not to vote for Obama. Many have thrown their support to McCain. But some still hold onto the hope that Hillary will rise again to take back her appointed date with destiny as Queen of America.

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From Michelle Malkin:

Hillary releases her hounds

By Michelle Malkin • August 24, 2008 11:37 PM

But will they follow her lead and throw their support to Barack Obama — or flip him the bird?

Anticipation:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton will tell her pledged delegates on Wednesday that they can vote for presidential hopeful Barack Obama at this week’s convention, several of her supporters said today.

Legally, delegates from 10 states who are elected to support a certain candidate are obliged to vote for that person, even if he or she isn’t running for president anymore. The rest of the state delegates can technically vote for whomever they want at the roll call.

By taking this action, Clinton is freeing up her pledged delegates in those states from their legal obligations.

Still many crestfallen Clinton delegates said Sunday they were still going to vote for her.

Hear the PUMAs roar.

Hot off the presses from the NYT and CBS, 42 percent of her delegates (20 percent of all delegates) say they’re ready to go PUMA. Will releasing them change that?

Still on schedule: The “Hillary Now/No Obamination – Hillary Now for McCain” rally on Thursday, 11:45am – 12:30pm from Mariposa Street to Federal/Invesco Field. (more Malkin)


Responses

  1. ” Obama and Hillary both supply much to attract those who need a “Celebrity” “Star” “Saviour” and someone to promise a Utopian outcome.”

    Although I often agree with you, I must characterize your quote above as rubbish.

    It is clear that no matter why Obama loses the 08 election (and believe me, he will), people are already saying that something Clinton will do in the future will be the reason for his failure. That is unfounded, and based on speculation not fact.

    As a former Hllary Clinton supporter, I can speak for many. We are supporting McCain because of the two choices American voters now have, he is the most qualified to lead America into the future.

    The need to support a celebrity be true of the wet-behind-the-ears Obama College crowd or the racist Black Liberation militants that support him only because of his skin color, but the majority of us who supported Hillary Clinton did so because of her positions on the issues that we, the people, face after 8 years of a bumbling and disastrous Bush administration.

    It is obvious that you have a very low opinion of Sen. Clinton, which I am afraid takes the punch out of this (your) post. John McCain is not running against Clinton. He is running against Obama, and Clinton is doing what she needs to now in order to secure her own future, which should be no surprise to Bush supporters.

    However, if you could get past your own personal knee-jerk hatred of her, you may see that she is as qualified to lead our great nation as Sen. McCain is, and light years ahead of George W. Bush in her ability to make decisions that will benefit more than just the special interest groups that George W. Bush has been serving.

  2. Thank you for your comment Anthony,

    I new my choice of words would ruffle the feathers of Hillary supporters. I hope this does not mean we cannot continue to dialog in future.

    In the past I have said that she would be a better option than Obama. I still believe that.

    As far as hatred, that is a little strong at least from my point of view. My comments are more of a reflection on the type of person who is drawn to the Democrat party. I was once a Democrat myself and that is one reason I left the party.

    Let’s just say that I do not agree with her ideas about National Health Care, Abortion, Taxes and other policies.

    I do respect your blog and your opinion. As I have always said Hillary supporters and Hillary detractors all need to stick together to resist the worst possible candidate of all Barack Obama.

    As far as my statement, ” Obama and Hillary both supply much to attract those who need a “Celebrity” “Star” “Saviour” and someone to promise a Utopian outcome.”

    There are many on the Democrat side who have more than Hillary’s qualifications and better policy ideas, like supporting the Iraq war and sticking with that decision.

    I still believe that Hillary would not be where she is if she were just another one of the Guys in the Senate or if she were never married to Bill Clinton.

    You’ll have to at least admit that Bill and Hillary both have more of a rock star image then John McCain or George Bush for that matter.

    Your point that my words are “rubbish” that is your right; I will take your point into account as I continue to write my thoughts.

    As for the statment,
    “People are already saying that something Clinton will do in the future will be the reason for his failure. That is unfounded, and based on speculation not fact.”

    I am only reflecting on some of the comments I have read on various Hillary blogs including Savage Politics. Once again this is a reflection on Hillary supporters more than my opinion of what she is up to. I also believe that you will agree that Hillary will be setting her sights on 2012 when Obama loses.

    Thanks for your comments and I do take into consideration your point of view.

    riggword.

  3. Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, which is fine with me. Open dialogue and debating dissenting opinions is something very dear to me, and our disagreement on this subject in no way changes my high opinion of you, which you’ve earned over time.

    As far as the “Rock Star” image, before you confine it to the Clintons, who, in my opinion, did more to bring the leftist Dems far closer to the center (where most of us actually stand), think of Ronald Regan and his own well deserved “Rock Star” status.

    When a politician does something that benefits us all, they deserve the attention. Their political identity does not make it OK for those we agree with and not OK for those we don’t.

    I think many of your criticisms are will founded, but the injection of such a personal opinion casts doubt on the writers’ credibility.

    (Hope we can still be friends, but as you know, I call it as I see it, and puncture balloons on both sides of the aisle, including my own in the center)


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